Rebuttals of the Week #37 : The key to all feminist thinking: Invent malevolent motivations for other people to justify your preferred conclusion. Declare yourself correct.

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Wendy C: Quotas would stop the boys club voting for their collegues at pre selection to the exclusion of women. Labor did it and the quality of the female politicians is just as good as any male party member. Quotas work simply because it prevents the boys club ganging up and voting for their collegues to the exclusion of women.

Going to Getugly: Where is your evidence for your assertion that there is a ‘boys club’ that votes for “their colleagues at pre selection to the exclusion of women”?

Wendy C: Eh! Don’t suppose the 11 votes for Julie Bishop in the leadership tussel is any indication of a boys club!!!,or the number of women candidates put up for LNP preselection, compared to the number men and who voted for whom is any indication!!!!. Don’t suppose the number of male M.P’s in the present LNP party is any indication when the female population of this country is 50/50, you might have won on this one if we were talking of China’s popuation, which we aren’t.By the way don’t tell me women don’t put their hands up for Liberal pre selection, because a lot of good competent Liberal women are now independants. So yes, it is going to get ugly and you need to go back to the drawing board.

Going to Getugly: Nothing you’ve presented is evidence for your claim. It’s a masterclass in circular reasoning. There can be multiple reasons for everything you’ve listed… but you have arbitrarily excluded all of them and decided that the one interpretation that just happens to confirm your preconceptions is the single plausible explanation. You haven’t demonstrated why that would be… you’ve simply attributed your favourite motivation to the people involved and declared yourself correct.

Your 50/50 argument is a ‘red herring’. The percentage of women in the population as a whole is irrelevant. The percentage of women compared to men who choose to be involved in politics is the number that matters. And as far as I’m aware the statistics show that far fewer women go into politics than do men… which immediately accounts for the disparity in their representation in the political system compared to their male counterparts.

If feminists emphasised the logical principles of Occam’s razor over using state authority to force personally gratifying optics onto society we could focus on good governance… regardless of the gender of the politicians… rather than wastefully pandering to feminist vanity.

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Video: Toxic masculinity? Let’s talk about the ‘beautiful masculinity’ embodied by the ‘MAGA hat’ kid!

In this video I discuss the various video clips which show how distorted and cruel the official narrative about the boys from Covington Catholic High School was that we had projected at us by the mainstream media .

Let’s see how our moral superiors on the ‘progressive’ Left went out of their way to characterize a bunch of children…

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Here is a small sample of how members of the uniquely compassionate, caring, peace loving, tolerant, empathetic, inclusive, non judgmental, inherently morally and intellectually superior and unfailingly correct in every perception, opinion and interpretation Trump hating ‘progressives’-Left  characterized a bunch of CHILDREN who it is now quite evident were being harassed and intimidated by two groups of grown men who were clearly bigots….

Melissa Dailey Ellsworth: These kids are garbage.

Susel Munoz: the kids were projecting themselves like little fascist Hitlers students . 

Oliver Froh: MAGA morons headed for the anti-choice march discovered they like racism too, just like their christofascist parents.

Lisa Solomon: Truth is …you have on that Maga hat, so we know what you stand for, and you’re an arrogant, disrespectful little prick

Héctor Fredes: The young prick in the red cap desperately wants a punch in the nose to wipe that smug smirk off his face.

John Moto: Give you a idea of the sort of horrible people who are right to lifers, nasty mean spirited bigots.

Deborah Burgess: Those kids are 100% revolting even their school agree they were wrong

Cindy Salinas Green” Trumpturds coming of age. Pathetic. Can’t even make it to adulthood without fckng things up. Cowards.

Heather C. Buchanan-Leek: I bet that’s what Brett Kavanaugh’s face looked like back in the day.

Erick Robinson: someone need to wipe the smile off his face

Mona Mack: Happy he was identified, i really hope colleges make a note of him too. He is Disgraceful to the Catholic Church/ school and it’s teachings.

Eddie Watson: He looks so proud doesn’t he, sadly he is, and even sadder still, his parents will have this photo on their wall in celebration of t eir and their sons’ beliefs. He just looks like a kid you’d love to smack in the mouth doesn’t he. These kids are from a religious school, the school bussed them in, not for this rally but an anti-abortion rally. But they felt comfortable doing this, which shows that they knew their school would approve. This is the America Trump is building, like everything else that bloated sexual predator builds, it’s foundations are weak, and it will end in bankruptcy, sadly that means the US has no future as a world leader for the right values. You can easily imagine this little prick wearing a Hitler Youth uniform in the 40s while attacking an old Jewish man in the streets. And being just as proud.

Former CNN contributor Reza Aslan: Honest question. Have you ever seen a more punchable face than this kids?

CNN legal analyst Bakari Sellers: He is deplorable. Some ppl can also be punched in the face.

Allged comedian and CNN contributor Kathy Griffin: Name these kids. I want NAMES. Shame them. If you think these f***ers wouldn’t dox you in a heartbeat , think again.

Hollywood movie producer Jack Morrissey: MAGAkids go screaming, hats first, into the woodchipper.

Democrat Howard Dean: Covington Catholic High School seems like a hate factory to me. Why not just close it?

Contributor to New York Media’s pop culture site Vulture Erik Abriss: I don’t know what it says about me but I’ve truly lost the ability to articulate the hysterical rage, nausea, and heartache this makes me feel. I just want these people to die. Simple as that. Every single one of them. And their parents. Look at the shit-eating grins on all those young white slugs’ faces. Just perverse pleasure at wielding a false dominion they’ve been taught their whole life was their divine right. F–ing die.”

Catholic kid who stood up to ‘Mr. Nathan Phillips’ is the face of beautiful masculinity!

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This kid Nick Sandmann is the perfect answer to the fashionable anti-male bigotry of the recent Gillette commercial. Here we have a bunch of adults who take their protected status for granted due to their identity as among the officially oppressed class trying to intimidate a boy by banging a drum in his face while yelling ‘White people go back to Europe where you came from” …. and this kid demonstrates a degree of restraint, strength, dignity and GOOD HUMOUR that should shame all of the grotesquely weak adult men in our society who are desperate to demonstrate their submission to fashionable attitudes of male inferiority. This kid is AWESOME!

How awesome? Read his own words:

I am providing this factual account of what happened on Friday afternoon at the Lincoln Memorial to correct misinformation and outright lies being spread about my family and me.

I am the student in the video who was confronted by the Native American protestor. I arrived at the Lincoln Memorial at 4:30 p.m. I was told to be there by 5:30 p.m., when our busses were due to leave Washington for the trip back to Kentucky. We had been attending the March for Life rally, and then had split up into small groups to do sightseeing.
When we arrived, we noticed four African American protestors who were also on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. I am not sure what they were protesting, and I did not interact with them. I did hear them direct derogatory insults at our school group.
The protestors said hateful things. They called us “racists,” “bigots,” “white crackers,” “faggots,” and “incest kids.” They also taunted an African American student from my school by telling him that we would “harvest his organs.” I have no idea what that insult means, but it was startling to hear.
Because we were being loudly attacked and taunted in public, a student in our group asked one of our teacher chaperones for permission to begin our school spirit chants to counter the hateful things that were being shouted at our group. The chants are commonly used at sporting events. They are all positive in nature and sound like what you would hear at any high school. Our chaperone gave us permission to use our school chants. We would not have done that without obtaining permission from the adults in charge of our group.
At no time did I hear any student chant anything other than the school spirit chants. I did not witness or hear any students chant “build that wall” or anything hateful or racist at any time. Assertions to the contrary are simply false. Our chants were loud because we wanted to drown out the hateful comments that were being shouted at us by the protestors.
After a few minutes of chanting, the Native American protestors, who I hadn’t previously noticed, approached our group. The Native American protestors had drums and were accompanied by at least one person with a camera.
The protestor everyone has seen in the video began playing his drum as he waded into the crowd, which parted for him. I did not see anyone try to block his path. He locked eyes with me and approached me, coming within inches of my face. He played his drum the entire time he was in my face.
I never interacted with this protestor. I did not speak to him. I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves. To be honest, I was startled and confused as to why he had approached me. We had already been yelled at by another group of protestors, and when the second group approached I was worried that a situation was getting out of control where adults were attempting to provoke teenagers.
I believed that by remaining motionless and calm, I was helping to diffuse the situation. I realized everyone had cameras and that perhaps a group of adults was trying to provoke a group of teenagers into a larger conflict. I said a silent prayer that the situation would not get out of hand.
During the period of the drumming, a member of the protestor’s entourage began yelling at a fellow student that we “stole our land” and that we should “go back to Europe.” I heard one of my fellow students begin to respond. I motioned to my classmate and tried to get him to stop engaging with the protestor, as I was still in the mindset that we needed to calm down tensions.
I never felt like I was blocking the Native American protestor. He did not make any attempt to go around me. It was clear to me that he had singled me out for a confrontation, although I am not sure why.
The engagement ended when one of our teachers told me the busses had arrived and it was time to go. I obeyed my teacher and simply walked to the busses. At that moment, I thought I had diffused the situation by remaining calm, and I was thankful nothing physical had occurred.
I never understood why either of the two groups of protestors were engaging with us, or exactly what they were protesting at the Lincoln Memorial. We were simply there to meet a bus, not become central players in a media spectacle. This is the first time in my life I’ve ever encountered any sort of public protest, let alone this kind of confrontation or demonstration.
I was not intentionally making faces at the protestor. I did smile at one point because I wanted him to know that I was not going to become angry, intimidated or be provoked into a larger confrontation. I am a faithful Christian and practicing Catholic, and I always try to live up to the ideals my faith teaches me — to remain respectful of others, and to take no action that would lead to conflict or violence.
I harbor no ill will for this person. I respect this person’s right to protest and engage in free speech activities, and I support his chanting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial any day of the week. I believe he should re-think his tactics of invading the personal space of others, but that is his choice to make.
I am being called every name in the book, including a racist, and I will not stand for this mob-like character assassination of my family’s name. My parents were not on the trip, and I strive to represent my family in a respectful way in all public settings.
I have received physical and death threats via social media, as well as hateful insults. One person threatened to harm me at school, and one person claims to live in my neighborhood. My parents are receiving death and professional threats because of the social media mob that has formed over this issue.
I love my school, my teachers and my classmates. I work hard to achieve good grades and to participate in several extracurricular activities. I am mortified that so many people have come to believe something that did not happen — that students from my school were chanting or acting in a racist fashion toward African Americans or Native Americans. I did not do that, do not have hateful feelings in my heart, and did not witness any of my classmates doing that.
I cannot speak for everyone, only for myself. But I can tell you my experience with Covington Catholic is that students are respectful of all races and cultures. We also support everyone’s right to free speech.
I am not going to comment on the words or account of Mr. Phillips, as I don’t know him and would not presume to know what is in his heart or mind. Nor am I going to comment further on the other protestors, as I don’t know their hearts or minds, either.
I have read that Mr. Phillips is a veteran of the United States Marines. I thank him for his service and am grateful to anyone who puts on the uniform to defend our nation. If anyone has earned the right to speak freely, it is a U.S. Marine veteran.
I can only speak for myself and what I observed and felt at the time. But I would caution everyone passing judgement based on a few seconds of video to watch the longer video clips that are on the internet, as they show a much different story than is being portrayed by people with agendas.
I provided this account of events to the Diocese of Covington so they may know exactly what happened, and I stand ready and willing to cooperate with any investigation they are conducting.

 

Video: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Proves Peter Hitchens Is Right About The Left

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez knows she’s ‘morally right’ and that’s more important than being ‘factually correct’. A self-flattering belief identified by Peter Hitchens… and Going to Getugly!… as common among people on the Left.

Rebuttals of the Week! #36: Conflate carbon dioxide with air pollution… then insist you’re right anyway when you’re caught!

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You see this a lot these days: People present their interpretation as definitive and insist that anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. Then when the interpretation is demonstrated to be flawed… they simply say “Well just ignore that because I’m still right!”

Here is my exchange with Alice:

Alice B: seriously?? You nutters at The Australian need to live in China for a year and see if Climate change and pollution is not real and see if THAT is not shrinking the economy i.e half China’s population will die young if they dont do somethng about their emissions! Now THAT aint good for economies!

Going to Getugly: You are an exceptional illustration of just how clueless people are about this subject while being absolutely certain of the excellence of their perception of the matter.

The problems you are referring to in China are not due to carbon dioxide emissions. They are due to actual air pollution as a result of untreated toxic emissions from industry.

Alice B: this exceptional illustration of clueless (LOL) can understand you can have both CO2 emissions from coal and untreated toxic chemical waste. LOL i.e. And most of the source of energy used to power these toxic chemical producing industries are powered by coal. ( As China has become more wealthy it has stopped using its own low grade coal an importing Australia’s high grade coal and has either closed allot of its own crap coal mines or exporting the crap to places like Africa)

Going to Getugly: That’s my point Alice…NOT yours. I’m the one who is distinguishing between carbon dioxide… which is what is allegedly driving climate change… and air pollution which is what is adversely affecting the health of people in China. You are the one who conflated those two things. And now that you’ve had that conflation pointed out to you… you are struggling to justify it. Unfortunately all you’re doing is emphasizing the distinction which you failed to make in your original comment.

Alice B: I do understand the difference. Conflated original comment or not, Climate change is affecting China as much as anywhere else. i.e I STILL stand by my point (it is not a justification) i.e Coal in China has has and is still a major source of energy that results in co2 emissions which in return WILL shrink the economy as climate change worsens ie. so to argue the Paris agreement will slow growth , is laughable as it is climate change that will slow growth dramatically going forward.

Going to Getugly: So I think you’re acknowledging that my criticism that you conflated climate change with air pollution in your original comment was correct. Your assertions that CO2 emissions “WILL shrink the economy as climate change worsens” of course is nothing but conjecture based on a whole lot of assumptions that you’re making being true. I think the IPCC claims climate change will shave off 10% of a country’s GDP over the next 80 years… which is computer generated fortune telling and as Scott Adams has argued is an insignificant number anyway. Even the guy who came up with the number says in Forbes magazine that “the statistic mischaracterizes the evidence”.

Your argument doesn’t make sense anyway. To assert that it’s somehow “laughable” to be concerned about the negative impact on economic growth brought about by the Paris agreement because of concern over the negative impact on economic growth brought about by climate change is fallacious.

Not to mention the fact that you haven’t even tried to grapple with the main problem: Even if you accept that the claims of the climate change establishment are 100% accurate and if everyone complies to the letter of the Paris Accord over the next 80 years (which no one will of course) by their own estimates the effect on temperatures by the end of the century will be something like a reduction in global temperatures of 3 tenths of one degree. In other words… it will have no meaningfully quantifiable affect whatsoever.

Which means we will get the negative economic and social impacts of this radical top down intervention into national economies by UN bureaucrats and we will get the alleged impact from climate change.

The only reason for supporting any of this is as far as I can tell is that it allows people… presumably like yourself… to feel good about yourselves in the present moment because you can delude yourselves into believing you’re helping to ‘save the planet’ by acquiescing to all of this bull shittery.

Video: The Left Makes Trump Look Reasonable By Comparison

Once again demonstrating the atrocious reasoning and blindness to hypocrisy common among people who have chosen to ground their sense of their moral identity in aligning with the “Look at me! I hate Trump too!” group-think.