(Link to the article: Equal outcomes have replaced equality of opportunity )
Tracy H: Who says diversity and excellence are mutually exclusive?
Going to Getugly: Tracy… you are the third person I’ve seen here who has indulged in the very same, unbelievably banal straw man:
Liam SO: Why do you think that diversity of thought or intellect is mutually exclusive to racial, gender, ethnic and sexual diversity???
Leslie M: The article confuses different issues; excellence and diversity are not mutually exclusive…
To me, this is an example of the incapacitating effect that being captured by a generic, all-consuming ideology has on an individual’s ability to think: You reflexively go to preconceived ideological categories in your head to tell you how to interpret what you are looking at rather than identifying the genuine characteristics of the ‘thing’ you are (supposedly) trying to understand.
Nowhere in Wente’s column does she say “diversity and excellence are mutually exclusive”. Neither does she make that argument.
And yet you and at least two others here have asserted that she directly or indirectly made that claim.
So if it didn’t come from Wente…. how did it get in your head? The only answer to that question is that it got in your head because YOU put it there. Not her.
When you say she said “diversity and excellence are mutually exclusive”… you are not describing Wente! You are describing YOU! Only you can’t tell the difference between what you make up in your mind and the ‘thing’ out there in the world that you believe you are describing.
And in my experience… this is the foundational characteristic of people who are on the ‘progressive’-Left. And as far as I’m concerned, it’s a demonstrable justification for equating ‘progressivism’ with incompetent reasoning skills.
Halloween is fast approaching… so naturally the ‘Let’s Pretend Trivial Nonsense Is Incredibly Important Squad’ is back to remind us that comfortable people in a uniquely successful and pluralistic civilisation will invent problems for themselves in order to have something to complain about.
Whereas normal people see the holiday as a rare opportunity to temporarily escape an increasingly mirthless, censorious and rigidly conformist daily grind (once known as having fun)… the New Puritans of the allegedly ‘progressive’ Left are intent on making sure that the rest of us are just as miserable, uptight, boring and uncomfortable with spontaneity and as themselves.
That’s why something like the packaging of obscure, seasonal products that have no effect on anyone can be accepted as worthy of intense scrutiny and moral consternation by major mainstream news organisations like the Globe and Mail.
The article prompted the following, reasonably non-agitated response from Michael G:
Michael G: If you’re secure with yourself and heritage/culture, it’s not really an issue. All I’d be pissed about is having a non authentic costume….obviously those depicted are not authentic representations. But still i wouldn’t get my breaches in a bunch about it…
Commentator Su Con however, found Michael’s take on the matter to be in conflict with the standard ‘progressive’ party-line:
Su Con: Given the racism that still exists, how can they be secure? Doesn’t this all come down to trying to change that?
So I helped clarify the situation:
Going to Getugly: No. This has nothing to do with stopping racism. It’s about two very specific things:
1. It’s about people who want to leverage their ‘victim’ status in order to see their will imposed on other people.
2. It’s about mainstream, middle-class people who find it gratifying to their ego and self-image to appear supportive of any fashionable trend… regardless of how stupid… that is marketed to them as atoning for past wrongs inflicted on minorities.
These two videos explore in detail what is really going on with the whole ‘cultural appropriation’ craziness:
In the article, John Doyle asserts: “It is stating the obvious to note that satiric comedy is enjoying a golden age in the United States. Every late-night chat show benefited from a tumultuous election and the triumph of Donald Trump. The Daily Show, much less pugnacious than under Jon Stewart, is thriving. The arrival of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver and Full Frontal with Samantha Bee only underlines that the appetite for the genre is huge.
The landscape here in Canada is different, but surely it is ripe for more caustic humour than we’ve been getting.”
Doyle is an example of the PROBLEM… not the solution.
The reason Canadian comedy is so meek and unfunny is NOT because it isn’t sufficiently like current American comedy. It’s because Canadian comedy is an even lamer version of the same predictable pandering to the conceits, assumptions and biases of the comfortable liberal middle class that defines American comedy today.
It’s simply delusional to believe that there is anything dangerous or brave about millionaire, Hollywood establishment liberal American television comedians telling an audience of mainstream, middle-class liberals that they are absolutely right about everything.
In the article, Doyle claims that these mainstream TV comedians like John Oliver, Samantha Bee and Jimmy Kimmel are encouraging everyone to “mock and distrust authority”. Now that’s funny! It’s also in complete defiance of reality!
These people are the CHEERLEADERS for the unchallenged authority of the ruling class. Don’t believe me? Then answer this question: Who does everyone… and I mean EVERYONE… in the political establishment, the mainstream media establishment, the Hollywood establishment and the academic establishment… in other words, all of the elites with power and authority in society…. absolutely despise and want to destroy right now?
You know the answer.
So you have to ask yourself…. who is really the one openly mocking and encouraging distrust of those who have grown accustomed to their hold on power and authority?
Nath: Sorry to the snowflakes who have to learn new words(I understand basic comprehension of proper grammar is probably hard for y’all). It’s called compassion, suck it up and get with the times.
Going to Getugly: Imposing your values on other people by making this mandatory is as far from ‘compassion’ as you can get. This fondness that ‘progressives’ have for changing the meaning of words to give a morally superior facade to their desire to force people to conform to their worldview is pathetic.
Nath: So you aren’t imposing your views by trying to stop it? It doesn’t hurt anyone. Its so people can understand. These people exist and deserve to be treated as people.
Going to Getugly: How do you know it “doesn’t hurt anyone”? And clearly, you don’t understand the meaning of “imposing”. Imposing means forcing someone to do something whether they agree with it or not. Saying “Don’t impose this on people”… is the OPPOSITE of imposing things on people. Unfortunately, you have provided yet another example of how the only reasoning that ‘progressives’ seem capable of engaging is self-confirming, logically incoherent circular reasoning.
Nath: Clearly we disagree. I don’t necessarily agree with the whole trans thing, especially when it comes to children, I find it strange. But, these people just want acceptance in society. I see nothing wrong with doing that. Why do you disagree with it?
Going to Getugly: Well as you say, the “whole trans thing, especially when it comes to children” is extremely troubling. In fact, it is completely irrational to propose that human beings at the earliest stages of their development… whom we don’t even grant authority to decide for themselves when they go to sleep or what they eat for dinner… are nonetheless completely competent to declare that their ‘identity’…whatever that is…. is the opposite of the reality of their biology. These are concepts that even reasonably informed adults are finding extremely challenging to contextualize…. and yet we’re granting absolute authority to the self-assessment of 13 year olds.
My concern is that today’s adults are prioritising their desire to not be seen as being out-of-step with fashionable ‘progressive‘ ideology over the true well-being of children. And the intention of The Ontario Human Rights Tribunal (which Professor Jordan Peterson has called “one of the most dangerous institutions in Canada”) pressuring institutions like the Ontario Hockey Federation into imposing these policies is to FORCE people to agree with all of this and to make it so socially, professionally and even legally unpleasant to question the wisdom of any of it that people just obediently submit and conform.
And all of that is terrible.
Globe and Mail Article: Is violence the way to fight racism?
So the peace-loving, compassionate, tolerant, morally perfect mainstream ‘progressive’-Left get to languidly ponder the wisdom of supporting an organised, widespread movement of armed thugs – who also share their political beliefs – and their preferred tactics of attacking people in the streets and destroying property.
At the same time the Left condemn mainstream conservatives by linking them with a ragtag handful of white-supremacist social misfits who nobody, anywhere in the mainstream is connected to, has ever supported and whom everyone has always taken for granted are despicable losers and totally beneath contempt.
This is just more evidence that the folks on the allegedly ‘progressive’-Left need to stop telling themselves that they are the good people. They’re not. Their instinct towards conformity to group thinking and privileging of social validation over truth-seeking represents the real, imminent threat to civil society.
Related: Liberal Reality Check: You’re NOT the GOOD People!
According to the article, Mr.Sharbaji spent 4 YEARS in EGYPT before being dragged here by Trudeau in his attempt to win the ‘Canadian leader with the most refugees in the shortest time’ contest! ‘You’ll bring in 20,000 over the coming year? Well, WE will bring in 25,000 in the next two months! And that’s just for starters!’
Mr.Sharbaji wasn’t fleeing Syria! We took a guy who was safe from the war in Syria and established for years in Egypt… a country that is culturally, religiously, linguistically and geographically very similar to his own… and bribed him with Canadian taxpayer’s money into moving to bloody New Brunswick for God’s sake! A half-frozen, underpopulated piece of real estate on the edge of the North Atlantic with an Anglo-Celtic/Acadian cultural identity… a place that he’d never heard of in his life. In other words, a spot on the globe that couldn’t be less similar to where he’s from.
Surprise! Despite all the lobster, fiddleheads and dulce he can eat, he’s not very happy there!
Hurriedly importing people like Mr. Sharbaji and his family was not an act of benevolence or generosity on behalf of Trudeau’s Liberals. It was a deeply cynical political calculation to bolster Justin’s persona during an election campaign as the new loving, caring, compassionate, ‘progressive’ Canadian leadership choice. They used poor people who had left Syria (as in Sharbaji’s case, often years prior) and were living in other Middle Eastern countries (Egypt, Turkey) as props…. whose participation they bought with taxpayers money…. shipped them over and dispersed them around the country to impress the kind of naive, sentimental, easily manipulated Canadians who don’t distinguish feeling good about themselves from actually doing what’s best.
And guess what? It worked! At least it did for Trudeau. For Mr.Sharbaji…. not so much.
I don’t know who started this idea that 20 year olds know enough about ANYTHING to justify taking their opinions seriously… let alone their “demands”(!)….. But it’s clearly time that stopped.