Rebuttals of the Week! #7: ‘Like, think about it…Mexico is so totally full of dangerous people who are like, different to us! So why would ‘progressives’ want to move there? Gawd!’

There was a lot of post-election material to choose from for this edition of ‘Rebuttals of the Week!’. But the breathtaking blindness to the neon-lit, flashing, day-glo hypocrisy of the ‘We’re moving to Canada because they’ve said mean things about Mexico’ thing encapsulated the truth about the emptiness of ‘progressive’ thinking so spectacularly… I decided to go with that.

Below are my interactions with three people who embody that style of thinking. You’ll notice all the standard ‘progressive’ characteristics: The withering, superior tone of feeling put upon for having to educate anyone so clearly less insightful than themselves; the obliviousness to the contradictions and inconsistencies in their own position; and the inevitable petulant defensiveness to having those contradictions and inconsistencies pointed out to them for the first time.

They  were reacting to this reasonable comment of mine posted online a few days ago:

Going to GetuglyGoing to Getugly Why do none of these non-bigoted, anti-wall building ‘progressives’ not want to move to Mexico? Why are they all choosing the ‘whitest’ of the two countries that border the USA?

Tony KoTK: I’ll be nice. Hopefully this is a better way of getting to people who think like that.

They want to come here because Canada is a liberal country in comparison. Our prime minister is a progressive. We are also mostly friendly to other cultures.

Going to GetuglyGoing to Getugly  Oh… so they prefer to be around people who are like themselves…. they prefer people who share the same culture… the same values…. speak the same language…. somewhere they know is safe…. not too much crime or violence….. So that’s why they don’t want to go to Mexico! Interesting.

Tony KoTK : Actually, I just took a look at your profile and I’m done commenting. You are as extreme as the people you hate. Complete waste of my time. Goodbye.

Going to GetuglyGoing to Getugly  And by “extreme” you of course mean you can’t handle having your poorly thought out ideas challenged.


Amy SteryAS: Not to mention that the majority here (in Canada) speak english. Not that that was obvious or anything.

Going to GetuglyGoing to Getugly Oh…. so it’s because they don’t want to live around a bunch of people who don’t speak the same language as they do and who don’t share their culture! Now I understand why they don’t want to go to Mexico.
Amy SteryAS: Easier to assimilate into a group of people with – almost – similar ideals. Culture in Canada is too difficult to pin point as we have so much ethnicity (unless you go to Quebec or British Columbia… maybe even Alberta). To go to another country with so much of their own culture, it would be difficult to adjust.

They would probably be able to afford the hell outta mexico. The climate is beautiful too. But the battles between the cartels and government have been pretty extreme.

Going to GetuglyGoing to Getugly  I see…. so these people feel that immigration works best when the immigrants have very similar cultures, traditions and values as the place they are moving to. After all, it makes assimilation so much easier. I see your point…. that makes a lot of sense!



Jackie BossJB: Think about it. Mexico is pretty corrupt, dirty cops, bad government, cartels who pretty much have power over police and government etc. Mexico is beautiful and probably the most fun place I’ve been to for vacation, but I wouldn’t want to live there

Going to GetuglyGoing to Getugly  OH MY GOD! Is it THAT bad? Somebody should build a wall or something!

Jackie BossJB: If you read my previous post I said Mexico was beautiful and one of the most fun places ive ever been. I like Mexico and no they should NOT build a wall, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is a dangerous country

Going to GetuglyGoing to Getugly Yes … I read your post very carefully. You said it was a beautiful country full of dirty cops, corruption and violent drug cartels. As you say, a very dangerous country. And if you, your family, your kids lived in a town that was right on the border of that very ‘dangerous country’… and if thousands of undocumented people from that place were streaming over that border every year right into your community…. do you think your attitude about building a wall might be different?

Jackie BossJB: I still don’t support building a wall. They leave their country for a reason: a better life. It may not be done legally, but most of those illegal immigrants dont come to cause trouble. So, no they should not build a stupid wall! 

Going to GetuglyGoing to Getugly  I asked you if you think your perspective might be different if you lived near the border of a country that you have described as dangerous, corrupt and full of violent drug cartels. In other words, can you show empathy for the people for whom this is a real, daily concern…. rather than merely preaching to them from a comfortable distance of thousands of miles away?
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Michael Harris is an oil painter, photographer, song writer and blogger from Toronto Canada. Michael's work is influenced by his interest in psychology, media, consciousness studies, politics and philosophy.

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